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Post  Serenel on Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:46 pm

so how long should the head of the executive serve?

and how will elections go down?

personally i think a 8week term, with elections being a popular vote, and lasting for 5 days is a good rule of thumb.

what do you guys think?
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:48 pm

Serenel wrote:so how long should the head of the executive serve?

and how will elections go down?

personally i think a 8week term, with elections being a popular vote, and lasting for 5 days is a good rule of thumb.

what do you guys think?

That certainly seems a fair process, however I would question the '5 day election' process. Perhaps the vote could take place the last full week of the current Prime Minister's term. Just a slight adjustment to allow for the highest possible participation.

As to the point I briefly alluded to in the "Citizenship" thread, I think all citizens and civilians (ALL nations) should have a vote. That is, all nations registered on the forums have a vote, for the sheer fact that without registering, accurate and objective vote counting cannot occur.
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Post  Serenel on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:15 am

Thats fine, usually after three days the active body has voted anyways, but 7 is fine.

i just said five so the last two days could be a 'lame duck' session, and the President could inform the incoming President, or whatever of anything thats going on, and just enjoy the last two days of his reign, where he can do what he wants with out worrying about those pesky voters, haha.

also i just like saying lame duck.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:16 am

Yeah, the last two days is hardly of great concern. I was just suggesting an extended voting time frame to ensure the fullest participation possible.
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Post  Anglenburgh on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:54 am

The election process, I think should go on for approx. 7 days, in the founder's time zone. And the Executive should serve a term of about two months, but I personally think the Parliament should have the majority of the power in the region...
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:18 am

Anglenburgh wrote:The election process, I think should go on for approx. 7 days, in the founder's time zone. And the Executive should serve a term of about two months, but I personally think the Parliament should have the majority of the power in the region...

I dare speak for Serenel, but these are pretty much exactly my sentiments on the matter. While Executive powers should be relevant, the real power should lie in the Univerasal Regional Legislature.
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Post  River on Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:51 am

In all of my experience, I have found that three month terns are about the best for the Executive. The incoming body's first month in office is more of an organizational effort that strict adherence to governmental business.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:04 pm

River wrote:In all of my experience, I have found that three month terns are about the best for the Executive. The incoming body's first month in office is more of an organizational effort that strict adherence to governmental business.

I am completely fine with longer terms. An additional month seems fair, especially since River's comment regarding 'organizational efforts' in the first month is probably going to hold true for The Dirty South, as well.

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Post  River on Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:16 pm

I haven had the time to read all of the posts yet, tomorrow will offer more time, but it might be a good idea to offset some of the elections so we're not bringing a totally new government in every election.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:17 pm

River wrote:I haven had the time to read all of the posts yet, tomorrow will offer more time, but it might be a good idea to offset some of the elections so we're not bringing a totally new government in every election.

Well, we could imitate the American political system. President serves 4 yr terms, while Congressmen serve 2 yr terms. This way there are mid-term elections within the term of any Executive.

Is that what you were getting at, River?

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Post  Serenel on Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:18 pm

I would be fine with off setting elections, but right now we have nothing to offset.

the only elected office will be the Prime Ministry/President, that gets elected on a ticket with his/her VP/DPM.

well...i suppose if we go for the Trimunative, that could very well be offset.

i guess we need to figure out what we want to go for.

as for the three month term, i would go for that if we had the trimunative government.

well not three months, more like 12 weeks, so no on gets screwed over by february/ months with 31 days as opposed to 30 days.

the reason why, if we had the Prime Ministry, i wouldnt want three months is because a region usually thrives on elections and the debate and activity it causes, and three months is a pretty long time in NS life to go with out activity being created.

also i find the longer the term, more possibility of a executive head going inactive and causing more damage.

just my thoughts though.
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Post  Anglenburgh on Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:46 pm

So, the Executive serves four months and the Congress people serve two months? lol
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Post  River on Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:14 am

Cool Egg Sandwich wrote:
River wrote:I haven had the time to read all of the posts yet, tomorrow will offer more time, but it might be a good idea to offset some of the elections so we're not bringing a totally new government in every election.

Well, we could imitate the American political system. President serves 4 yr terms, while Congressmen serve 2 yr terms. This way there are mid-term elections within the term of any Executive.

Is that what you were getting at, River?

Kinda, except you would have three coincidental elections per year. Now, if you have the Executive serve a 4 month/16 week term and the Legislative a 3 month/12 week term, there would be only one coincidental election per year.
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Yup

Post  The True Horde on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:41 pm

My vote

13 week terms, giving us 4 terms in a 52 week period ( 1 year).

One election for everybody of government every 13 weeks. I think if we push the terms any longer people may get restless and leave our dear region of the Dirty South.
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Post  River on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:11 pm

That might have some credence, but it's been my experience that many regions go inactive when the entire government is changed. I've seen too much of that.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:16 pm

River wrote:That might have some credence, but it's been my experience that many regions go inactive when the entire government is changed. I've seen too much of that.

Yeah we definitely need some sort of governmental overlap. We want to promote different 'regimes' to work together, and by assimilating different components, and circulating offices people feel a greater sense of fraternity, cooperation, and of course fairness.

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Post  River on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:25 pm

So it was written, so should it be. Cool
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:27 pm

River wrote:So it was written, so should it be. Cool


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Post  River on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:30 pm

Ribbet, Ribbet. LOL
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Post  Anglenburgh on Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:53 pm

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Post  Serenel on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:01 am

Well sorry to bust everyones bubble here, but there probably is not going to be much government overlap...well there could be in how Prime Ministers choose their cabinet.

however i say that, because the region seems to be heading to a constitution to where the only elected positions would be Prime Minister/President and Veep/DPM, which are both elected on a ticket, meaning in reality there is only one 'elected' position, and we are just doing a twofer.

this means 'overlap' would be entirely up to a new Prime Minister/Presient if they wanted to retain some and or all and or none of the former cabinet members...

however on the good news side, the Assembly will pretty much always be the same... Very Happy
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Post  River on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:11 am

Having previously held the top governmental position elsewhere, I have always operated under the "best and brightest" philosophy in choosing my cabinet. I never considered a person's party affiliation or personality in my choices.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:24 pm

River wrote:Having previously held the top governmental position elsewhere, I have always operated under the "best and brightest" philosophy in choosing my cabinet. I never considered a person's party affiliation or personality in my choices.

I really don't think that political parties are really the 'best' thing to grow out of fledgling governments. They really create the potential for deadlocked government, but the growth of political parties is something we can't prevent. It's a natural occurrence.

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Post  Anglenburgh on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:28 pm

From my experiences I would have to agree with you on that, Political Parties are not a smart route to take until at least the second round of elections... They cause too much strife in the area of creating and enforcing the Constitution when the Region is still so young. Crying or Very sad
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Post  Knights Inquisitor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:12 pm

I also agree with not having political parties. Since they are an unavoidable, though not necessarily bad certainty, I say let them form as time passes.
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