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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:46 pm

old stuff:

As promised, I have prepared a draft for legally establishing The Dirty South University. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, I feel it should be expanded to include more things, perhaps "roles of the University". Thoughts???

The Dirty South Education Initiative 2011

The General Assembly,

Believing in the importance of formal activities that promote the creation of a unique ‘regional culture’,

Acknowledging that a regional educational institution has myriad benefits, including personal enjoyment and intellectual development,

Noting the moderate success and enjoyment already received from ‘Daily Philosophy’ [Architektonikon], and wishing to expand upon this success,

Hereby legally establishes The Dirty South University [TDSU] as the official educational institution of The Dirty South,




Section 1 – University Administration

1. The administrative powers of the university shall be vested in the Office of Dean
2. The Dean of the University may appoint citizen nations of The Dirty South to serve as ‘cabinet members’ in his administration, but is not required to do so.
3. Cabinet members will only have legal administrative authority in the university if the Dean explicitly grants such authority.
4. In the event that the Office of the Dean becomes vacant, the Premier shall have all legal authority over TDSU until another Dean can be selected.


Section 2 – Powers of the Dean


1. The Dean may establish and disband any department in The Dirty South University.
a. When disbanding a department, the Dean must present a written explanation to the General Assembly.
b. This explanation requires majority consent from the General Assembly in order to legally disband a department of the university.
2. The Dean may appoint professors to teach courses and administer departments within the university.
3. The Dean shall lead and coordinate curriculum development; these duties will include but are not limited to:
a. selection and approval of departments that TDSU will offer.
b. selection of course material and individual class structure.
4. The Dean may remove TDSU cabinet members and professors at his discretion.
5. The Dean may make formal declarations, in the form of a written recommendation, to the General Assembly in order to influence regional educational legislation.
6. The Dean is encouraged to provide regular evaluations and assessments of the departments and professors of TDSU, and to make those evaluations and assessments public via the Forums.


Section 3 – Selection of the Dean

1. The Premier shall nominate three candidates to the General Assembly to participate in an election.
2. The Premier is encouraged to present his nominations within five (5) days of the passage of this act, or within five days of the Office of Dean becoming vacant.
3. If the Premier fails to present any candidates, or the Premier presents less than two (2) candidates within the five-day nomination period, the Admins of the Forums will open a self-nomination period that will last for a period of two (2) days.
4. If the Premier presents exactly two (2) candidates, the Admins may nominate an additional citizen-nation.


Section 4 – Election of the Dean


1. The election shall be administered by the Admins of the Forums.
2. The election shall last a period of five (5) days.
3. All citizen and civilian nations of The Dirty South shall be eligible to participate in the election.
4. At the end of the five-day voting period, the candidate who received a plurality of the votes cast shall ascend to the Office of the Dean of TDSU.


Section 5 – Removal of Dean, TDSU cabinet members, and Professors

1. Members of the General Assembly may present a case before the Supreme Court calling for the removal of any official of TDSU, including the Dean, his cabinet members, or professors of the university.
2. Supreme Court decisions on these cases will have a fully-binding effect, and their decisions must be adhered to without exception.


Section 6 – Dean Term Length


1. Upon ascending to the Office of Dean of TDSU, a Dean shall hold his position for life, or until he ceases to become a citizen as outlined in the Constitution, is removed from office by the process outlined in Section 5, Clause 1-2, or resigns from the university.


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Post  Serenel Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:08 pm

I have seen Universities thrive in other regions, being a great source for activity, and prosperity.

some fundamental things, we as a Assembly would have to ponder if we want to proceed with such a motion is how shall the Dean of the University be selected? will he have a life tenure, or shall their be a term? should we have term limits and or rotation?

how much free range shall be given to the Dean to select/fire his or her Professors?

how much protection do we give the Professors to steer their course the way they like with out interference from the Dean?

all questions i lay open for debate to all Assembly Members, with a special interest in the thoughts of the sponsor.
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Post  Knights Inquisitor Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:36 pm

I would suggest that the Dean more permanent, until either voluntary resignation or removal with cause by the Assembly. The power to appoint Professors with consideration of qualifications, approved by the Secretary of Education. Removal of Professors would be at the Dean and Secretary's mutual decision, with a posting of reasons before the Assembly.
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Post  United Midwest Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:58 pm

I would like to ask a question in regards to one section of university and that is: will alternate languages other than English be offered and if so, what languages would be offered. I would propose French, Arabic, Japanese and/or ASL as possible choices. French because it is spoken in more countries than any other excluding English, Arabic and Japanese because they are the most majorly recognized languages of commerce along with English and ASL(or American Sign Language) because I think a good understanding with the deaf-mute community is somewhat essential for all.(I am a bit biased considering I work with the deaf and deaf-mute people at my place of work IRL)

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Post  Serenel Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:04 pm

Well the 'Schools' offered in the university i would suppose be create by whom ever we, or some other entity selects as the Dean.

however i am sure if you came up to the Dean (or maybe you tried to be Dean your shelf. *nudge* *nudge) such a school of languages could be constructed.

also if you would be willing to become a professor and 'tech' a class or two, you probably could get some people interested in it as well.

so i would encourage you, if you want that to become a reality to take part in the creation of the university system, so once it gets up and running you can participate in it! i think you would be great at it.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:07 pm

United Midwest wrote:I would like to ask a question in regards to one section of university and that is: will alternate languages other than English be offered and if so, what languages would be offered. I would propose French, Arabic, Japanese and/or ASL as possible choices. French because it is spoken in more countries than any other excluding English, Arabic and Japanese because they are the most majorly recognized languages of commerce along with English and ASL(or American Sign Language) because I think a good understanding with the deaf-mute community is somewhat essential for all.(I am a bit biased considering I work with the deaf and deaf-mute people at my place of work IRL)

Would you perhaps be interested in a Professor of American Sign Language position ?

Admittedly, I am not fluent in any foreign languages and I am unsure who among us speaks another language. If you feel that you are able / willing to offer American Sign Language "classes", I would definitely be interested. After writing this, I do find there will be a rather large concern with actually presenting the ASL symbols, unless you were to use links and what not...
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Post  Serenel Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:39 pm

So CES have you drafted anything up?

just checking in is all.

i think once we have a frame work to build off of, the debate will be able to move along much faster.
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Post  Anglenburgh Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:01 pm

The Alliance of Queens also has a University. Just saying Very Happy
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:21 pm

Serenel wrote:So CES have you drafted anything up?

just checking in is all.

i think once we have a frame work to build off of, the debate will be able to move along much faster.

I haven't put the pen to the paper as of yet, but I should have something by the end of the week, I suppose. I wanted to see what the "thoughts" were on the subject before I drafted something, and to be honest I have been busy with WA legislation and what not. I'll be sure to post something as soon as is appropriate.

Saludos,
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Post  Serenel Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:43 pm

I understand exactly where you are coming from.

i just think a frame work would provide the body with a good starting point to work off of, so then we can mold the motion into something.

just a thought.
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Post  Architektonikon Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:13 pm

I would be more than willing to move my philosophy section to the university
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:47 pm

Architektonikon wrote:I would be more than willing to move my philosophy section to the university

That's the plan. I apologize for not having a draft up yet, but I have been incredibly busy this past week.
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:18 pm

Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know I finally put a draft together. It's in the OP, so have a look.

Thanks! I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts...


Saludos,
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Post  United Midwest Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:27 am

I would be honored to be Dean of ASL, I know of a site that shows the motions and signs for different words. I do not remember the site at present, I will post it at my earliest possible point.

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Post  Serenel Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:01 am

Okay, There are some things I am not particularly found of in this legislation.

However it isn’t anything that would really keep me from voting for it, or trying to hold up this passage.

So take everything I say with a grain of salt, as just my personal opinion, and feel free to disagree with it and proceed as normal.

1. I really don’t see the need for cabinet members…I think it would only add to the confusion for newer nations trying to learn the ropes. (I.e so that one is a cabinet member, and so is that guy, but wait one is a administration cabinet member, and one is just with the Uni?) iunno, just how I see it going down.

I think if the Dean wanted his own council or something, okay, but just have it be a smaller select group of Professors, and maybe he can have a Vice-Dean or something…just an opinion.

2. I don’t believe the Dean should have to get the Assemblies consent to disband a department….maybe if in the future the GA gives them government funds…maybe I would go with that, but not at this point.

3. And just for clarity we are all in understanding that according to Sec. 3 clause 3, no matter what, if the Premier can not present three candidates, the admins are opening a self nominating thread?

This effectively means if the Premier presents two candidates, the admins have to step in, discredit those two candidates, and then open a nomination thread, and if those two candidates do not self nominate they arent on the ballot, but whom ever does, will be.

I just want to make sure that was your intent?

4. Do we want only citizens being able to vote? Or do we want to include the Civilian population as well?

5. I think Sec. 5, clause 1 needs to be cleaned up a bit for clarity, because connectors, and specifics are necessary in law, as read currently it could be argued that in order to remove a professor you have to also attempt to remove the Dean, the Cabinet, and all the other Prof, because it implies a ‘and’ connector instead of stating an ‘or’ connector.

6. And then, personally I think there should be a term length….maybe it can be a bit long, like five or six months…but I think it would be good for the region to have another scheduled election every so often, just a thought.

7. Also in Sec 6, clause 1...should it be a ‘or is’ instead of an ‘are’ after the third comma? I mean I def could be wrong, but it just sounds better as a ‘or is’ instead of an ‘are’….lol

Like I said, all of these things are just my thoughts, it could go to vote as is, and I would probably still vote for it.

Great job writing it CES!
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:15 am

I probably should have spent some more time, I am going to make a few edits. Check back in a few minutes...
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Post  Architektonikon Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:18 pm

It is an 'is' (that is, the way it stands is correct). The subject of the sentence is singular; hence, the corresponding verb should be singular.

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Post  Serenel Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:46 pm

Architektonikon wrote:It is an 'is' (that is, the way it stands is correct). The subject of the sentence is singular; hence, the corresponding verb should be singular.

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hold on wait....im confused.

if it is suppose to be 'is' then it needs to be changed, or did you mean to type it is suppose to be an 'are'?
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Post  Cool Egg Sandwich Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:08 am

Architektonikon wrote:It is an 'is' (that is, the way it stands is correct). The subject of the sentence is singular; hence, the corresponding verb should be singular.

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It was an oversight, and I changed it.

Technically, I'm not in the Assembly and I shouldn't be posting, I just wanted to clarify...
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